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The true Garden of Eden (Paradise) was that period consisting of millions of years during which all life forms were evolved (created) by the Divine Creative Essence homogeneous with its vehicle of manifestation, Earth. Included in these life forms was that form referred to as animal-man. There was as yet no mind; animal-man co-existed and co-evolved with all other life forms. Our predecessors were guided by instinct. Like the lower animal forms of today, they reproduced according to season, not desire. Since there was no mind, there was no desire, there was no responsibility (karma in the East) for actions. We lived and moved and had our being in an instinctual, Paradise like state of existence. Then, about twenty two and a half million years ago animal man go up off all-fours and walked. About twenty two million years ago mind was sparked, appeared in animal-man; the Christ within (the human mind) was conceived and as is allegorically and symbolically depicted in the scriptures from which the Bible was plagiarised, the evolution of the "Quality" of mind began it's journey. **************************************** Mondo's forum where Striver posted this is now a read only. You can find it at: http://www.network54.com/Forum/411478/ But he has now opened The House Of Love at http://lovehouse.yuku.com/, where you can find Striver and indeed Starman posts there as well - but not enough, Starman! We WANT your LIGHT there, dearest heart, David. It will be nice to see you even just to say hello, Skydreamers........ Well, darn it - I can say HELLO now..........HIYA......smile. Take care all.... Love and LIGHT Jackie
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StarmantheOne wrote: now listen to me close....I have posed a 1000 times I am not an educated man....but I do have God's Holy Spirit and this is not easy to acquire....one has to die to self, and this means loose it ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!and this was painful.....I have lost everything.....to acquire Jesus.....here is a post that covers what I would tell you if I were educated and had the ability to post my thoughts to you....... "The world scriptures, all of them, the zodiac, the Cabala Tree of Jewish mysticism, the Labors of Hercules, and yes, the Bible, all have the same message. They are all depictions of the appearance of mind in animal-man. This event is symbolically referred to as the conception of the, the human mind, the human soul, the Christ in us, the hope of glory. The Bible is a composite of symbols and allegories from all the other methods; methods which pre-date the compilation of the Bible by thousands of years. This is embarrassingly apparent to those who are familiar with these other Expressions. Everyone of these scriptures depict the evolution of the QUALITY of mind. We won't go into the Old Testament which allegorically cover that period during which animal instinct is being replaced by that quality of mind called human. We will start where Christianity begins...in the middle of the mind's evolution in quality from the animal to the Divine' Throughout history, ante-dating the time assigned to the birth of Jesus all the way back to Egypt, all religions have had their Exoteric component and they all made the same mistake...the made the subjective, objective and worshiped. Along side the majority Esoteric was the minority Esoteric who knew better. Every culture had there own names for that momentous point in the evolution of the human mind at which a new, higher quality perception appears ion the mental scene. It marks the beginning of spiritual growth through trial and error and the beginning (the birth) of consciousness...we grow consciously, purposefully, deliberately. It is a quality mind that will replace human mind just as human mind replaced animal instinct. Among the names given this "beginning" this new birth are Buddha, Jesus, Krishna,,to list but three of so very many. All of these different infant saviors with different names have precisely the same meanings. Thay are symbol, NOT PEOPLE for mind having evolved to that quality called consciousness. The word Buddha is a title, not an individual. It means Enlightenment. Jesus of the New Testament is not a person, but a symbol meaning enlightenment. Jesus is known as the Light of the world, so was Buddha. Orthodox Christianity made the same mistake with the rabbi Jesus, born to his mother who became pregnant via sexual intercourse with her husband as did Esoteric Buddhist wit the flesh and blood Gautama and as did all cultures throughout history with their favorite spiritual teacher. The placed the infant savior born to a virgin, the symbol for consciousness upon their favorite and most revered spiritual teacher. Buddha and Jesus are identical symbols. They represent that new-born quality of mind , the light of the world which reveals to us our impediments to Christ quality mind.The Buddha and Jesus symbols are the New Testament from the birth , up to and including the Transfiguration. It is at this point that the Transfigured mind, enters upon its becoming Christ mind. Gautama achieved Nirvana. Buddha/Jesus lights the path to Christ mind. The mythical Jesus of the New Testament is a symbol, therefore taught nothing. The flesh and blood rabbi Jesus of the lineage of the house of David was a teacher. Jesus and the Christ are two different symbols. The rabbi Jesus and the planetary Christ, the Master of all the Masters and of angels and men alike are two different and distinct people. I can't figure out which Christ you're talking about. Spirit is life, electricity, the animating principle. God forms Christ? I don't follow. Christ the second subjective aspect of the truing God...US...or the planetary Christ, the first of Earth humanity to attain the clear, cold light of pure reason.? Jesus does not save us. Our Christ within, our hope of glory, saves us from our rather unpleasant human quality mind. The is no God needing revenge over his own creation not working, no Satan and no Hell. Buddha is a symbol, cannot teach anything. Gautama, who attained the state of consciousness called Buddha (has been Transfigured) taught his disciples. There is no God to send his son. We are gods. (John 10:34 and Psalms 82.6). The divine Soul, the Christ Principle, God, doesn't need to be saved. The mind, the human soul isn't saved, it is transmuted into God mind via the evolutionary process. Buddha does not 'find' Christ. Buddha/Jesus becomes the Christ via the Transfiguration period . Jesus is not the man Christ becomes. The stage of mind called Jeus becomes the "full grown man in Christ. The Bible is not about people, it deals with states of mind quality. "Let that mind which is in Christ be also in us." Mind is subjective. Surgeons can operate on the objective brain, but not the subjective mind.. Jesu does not mean the salvation of Jehovah. We have discussed the meaning od Jesus. Before ignorant theologian got their hand and minds on it JEHOVAH was a seven lettered symbol for the seven grades of Matter which form our solar system...the seven frequencies, the Elohim, that make-up our solar system. There never was a Being Jehovah. Our will, soul, and body are the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit...God, the god John 10:34 speaks about. and does not submit to anything Jesus does not make us man (I assume you mean animal man) Human is the first stage up from animal-man. Jesus is the second stage out of Human to the beginning of our becoming Christ ed....the stage of Transfiguration.. Me..these words are inspired by God through the person who wrote them.....I do not know "striver"...but I KNOW Striver.....he is the ONE......voice that hears HIM...."My sheep know My voice"....when I read the Truth no matter who is speaking.....I am blessed.......this "voice" is to be listened to...because thay who ever they are paid a HUGE PRICE to know these things........Me still love you ALL....Star Correction: The third paragraph should read " the appearance of the new perception marks the beginning of the END of spiritual growth through trial and error,.
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My job is not to teach people [I am not the source of their truth]... my job is to help people learn to hear the teacher within them. IT IS THEIR FAITH THAT MAKES THEM WHOLE! It is written,
"You need not for any MAN to teach you." Believe me, guys... there is no man speaking the words that I am writing here, and these words are already written inside of each one of you. I am just retrieving them from YOUR internal hard drive! It is all about us learning to ignore the outer man [our flesh] who cannot keep God's law, and instead, trust the inner man - WHO WROTE THAT LAW! God can speak through anything!
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