*I love you*
*I will always be with you, I shall never leave or forsake you.*
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Barb Mtn Wolf |
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*I love you*
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Bill Lancaster |
This is good heart medicine, because we will not give up; we will live! Read every morsel of this Word... | #1 | ||
2 Corinthians 41THEREFORE, SINCE we do hold and engage in this ministry by the mercy of God [granting us favor, benefits, opportunities, and especially salvation], we do not get discouraged (spiritless and despondent with fear) or become faint with weariness and exhaustion.2We have renounced disgraceful ways (secret thoughts, feelings, desires and underhandedness, the methods and arts that men hide through shame); we refuse to deal craftily (to practice trickery and cunning) or to adulterate or handle dishonestly the Word of God, but we state the truth openly (clearly and candidly). And so we commend ourselves in the sight and presence of God to every man's conscience. 3But even if our Gospel (the glad tidings) also be hidden (obscured and covered up with a veil that hinders the knowledge of God), it is hidden [only] to those who are perishing and obscured [only] to those who are spiritually dying and veiled [only] to those who are lost [this is speaking of the carnal "man" nature in ALL men]. 4For the god of this world has blinded the unbelievers' minds [that they should not discern the truth], preventing them from seeing the illuminating light of the Gospel of the glory of Christ (the Messiah), Who is the Image and Likeness of God. 5For what we preach is not ourselves but Jesus Christ as Lord, and ourselves [merely] as your servants (slaves) for Jesus' sake. 6For God Who said, Let light shine out of darkness, has shone in our hearts so as [to beam forth] the Light for the illumination of the knowledge of the majesty and glory of God [as it is manifest in the Person and is revealed] in the face of Jesus Christ (the Messiah). 7However, we possess this precious treasure [the divine Light of the Gospel] in [frail, human] vessels of earth, that the grandeur and exceeding greatness of the power may be shown to be from God and not from ourselves. 8We are hedged in (pressed) on every side [troubled and oppressed in every way], but not cramped or crushed; we suffer embarrassments and are perplexed and unable to find a way out, but not driven to despair; 9We are pursued (persecuted and hard driven), but not deserted [to stand alone]; we are struck down to the ground, but never struck out and destroyed; 10Always carrying about in the body the liability and exposure to the same putting to death that the Lord Jesus suffered, so that the [resurrection] life of Jesus also may be shown forth by and in our bodies. 11For we who live are constantly [experiencing] being handed over to death for Jesus' sake, that the [resurrection] life of Jesus also may be evidenced through our flesh which is liable to death. 12Thus death is actively at work in us, but [it is in order that our] life [may be actively at work] in you. 13Yet we have the same spirit of faith as he had who wrote, I have believed, and therefore have I spoken. We too believe, and therefore we speak, 14Assured that He Who raised up the Lord Jesus will raise us up also with Jesus and bring us [along] with you into His presence. 15For all [these] things are [taking place] for your sake, so that the more grace (divine favor and spiritual blessing) extends to more and more people and multiplies through the many, the more thanksgiving may increase [and redound] to the glory of God. 16Therefore we do not become discouraged (utterly spiritless, exhausted, and wearied out through fear). Though our outer man is [progressively] decaying and wasting away, yet our inner self is being [progressively] renewed day after day. 17For our light, momentary affliction (this slight distress of the passing hour) is ever more and more abundantly preparing and producing and achieving for us an everlasting weight of glory [beyond all measure, excessively surpassing all comparisons and all calculations, a vast and transcendent glory and blessedness never to cease!], 18Since we consider and look not to the things that are seen but to the things that are unseen; for the things that are visible are temporal (brief and fleeting), but the things that are invisible are deathless and everlasting.
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I don't see that chapter of scripture saying that Jesus suffered FOR US, [so that we wouldn't have to]; do you guys?
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Bill Lancaster |
Paul's source for 2 Corinthians 4 | #3 | ||
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I thought it would be neat to see where Paul was referencing from, in his mentioning of the phrase, "I believed; therefore have I spoken", in 2
Corinthians 4:13 [above].
It is from David [Psalm 116], and it is also a great comfort to us. Read and absorb this medicine, people! bb Psalm 116 1I LOVE the Lord, because He has heard [and now hears] my voice and my supplications. 2Because He has inclined His ear to me, therefore will I call upon Him as long as I live. 3The cords and sorrows of death were around me, and the terrors of Sheol (the place of the dead) had laid hold of me; I suffered anguish and grief (trouble and sorrow). 4Then called I upon the name of the Lord: O Lord, I beseech You, save my life and deliver me! 5Gracious is the Lord, and [rigidly] righteous; yes, our God is merciful. 6The Lord preserves the simple; I was brought low, and He helped and saved me. 7Return to your rest, O my soul, for the Lord has dealt bountifully with you. 8For You have delivered my life from death, my eyes from tears, and my feet from stumbling and falling. 9I will walk before the Lord in the land of the living. 10I believed (trusted in, relied on, and clung to my God), and therefore have I spoken [even when I said], I am greatly afflicted. 11I said in my haste, All men are deceitful and liars. 12What shall I render to the Lord for all His benefits toward me? [How can I repay Him for all His bountiful dealings?] 13I will lift up the cup of salvation and deliverance and call on the name of the Lord. 14I will pay my vows to the Lord, yes, in the presence of all His people. 15Precious (important and no light matter) in the sight of the Lord is the death of His saints (His loving ones). 16O Lord, truly I am Your servant; I am Your servant, the son of Your handmaid; You have loosed my bonds. 17I will offer to You the sacrifice of thanksgiving and will call on the name of the Lord. 18I will pay my vows to the Lord, yes, in the presence of all His people, 19In the courts of the Lord's house--in the midst of you, O Jerusalem. Praise the Lord! (Hallelujah!)
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Look at verse 11 in that Psalm,
11I said in my haste, All men are deceitful and liars. Now look at this verse from Revelation, Revelation 21:7, 8 (Amplified Bible)7He who is victorious shall inherit all these things, and I will be God to him and he shall be My son. 8But as for the cowards and the ignoble and the contemptible and the cravenly lacking in courage and the cowardly submissive, and as for the unbelieving and faithless, and as for the depraved and defiled with abominations, and as for murderers and the lewd and adulterous and the practicers of magic arts and the idolaters (those who give supreme devotion to anyone or anything other than God) and all liars (those who knowingly convey untruth by word or deed)--[all of these shall have] their part in the lake that blazes with fire and brimstone. This is the second death. Me: Look at that! The scripture says that "ALL MEN ARE LIARS", and then turns right around, and tells us [in Revelation 21:8], THAT ALL LIARS [as well as those who are guilty of a bunch of other law infractions] SHALL HAVE THEIR PART IN THE LAKE THAT BLAZES WITH FIRE AND BRIMSTONE! That tells me either one of two things [possibilities]: [1] All men are not going to enter heaven, because all men are liars, and God is going to vanquish EVERY human being [literally] by burning them up with
fire.
Or, [2] God is speaking to a fractional PART of every man here, and the lake of fire and brimstone is not a place of "destruction", but rather - a place of purification. God is going to vanquish only a PART of every man [the carnal mind], and leave the other parts untouched by the fire of His Spirit baptism. Well... seeing as God said that it was His good intention to SAVE THE SOUL OF EVERY MAN FROM DEATH; I am going to have to go with door #2! Heh heh heh! Notice how the Lord words that last phrase of Revelation 21:8! "...[all of these shall have] their part in the lake that blazes with fire and brimstone. This is the second death." Me: Even the Lord says that it will only be a PART that is placed in
the lake of fire! The lake of fire is the Word of God's testimony, which is being spoken through His elect remnant! So we are the lake of fire! And the
CARNAL PART of each person, who is exposed to that fire, will be burned up!
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Here is some scripture in 1 Corinthians, which touches on this subject, also...
1 Corinthians 3:10-15 10According to the grace (the special endowment for my task) of God bestowed on me, like a skillful architect and master builder I laid [the] foundation, and now another [man] is building upon it. But let each [man] be careful how he builds upon it, Me: Remember... there are 2 men in every person's soul: [1] The Christ man And [2] The man of sin Next verse, 11For no other foundation can anyone lay than that which is [already] laid, which is Jesus Christ (the Messiah, the Anointed One in you). 12But if anyone [God the Father] builds upon the Foundation, whether it be with gold, silver, precious stones [Christ], wood, hay, straw [antichrist], 13The work of each [one] will become [plainly, openly] known (shown for what it is); for the day [of Christ] will disclose and declare it, because it will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test and critically appraise the character and worth of the work each man has done. 14If the work which any person has built on this Foundation [any product of his efforts whatever] survives [this test], he will get his reward [Christ will survive the fire]. 15But if any man's work is burned up under the test [the man of sin - antichrist], he will suffer the loss [of it all, losing his reward of life everlasting], though he himself [our purified soul] will be saved, but only as [one who has passed] through fire. Me: It's all fractional, and it is soooooo wonderful to know! I rejoice in our sufferings, because the light is appearing, and the darkness is passing away! HALLELUJAH! bb
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One other footnote: The soul is always seen as the feminine part of each person, so when the man of sin has been removed from our soul [by fire purification],
and the mind of Christ is revealed in her, then she will no longer be seen as a harlot, but will be counted as a chaste, and pure virgin unto the Lord! It is
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2 Corinthians 11:2 For I am zealous for you with a godly eagerness and a divine jealousy, for I have betrothed you to one Husband, to present you as a chaste virgin to Christ. |
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That scripture is NOT speaking to natural virgins, or females, folks... it is speaking to each and every person on earth - no matter what gender they possess
in the natural. bb
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This makes me want to cry, to weep.....tears of joy. You are very blessed as a prophet for Him, Bill. Really, really, REALLY...REAL! For some time now I have
been musing on this very thing, well He had me musing it wasn't of my own understanding at all, because I couldn't quite make the full connections like
you've just helped me with. How the harlot...becomes the chaste virgin bride. It's the man of sin (antiChrist, carnal nature) being removed part!!!!!
Cleansed and purified by Fire....Fire being Light.....He being the Light....in EVERY ONE.
This fractional teaching of yours~His is the best thing I have ever been blessed to hear,it helps me understand the Bible in terms of UNITY, not division! Love you, Barb |
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Barb Mtn Wolf wrote:a huge AMEN to that Barb! |
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Posts: 164 07/02/09 13:23:51 |
Barb Mtn Wolf wrote:
YES!
YES!! YES YES YES!!! |
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